KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

[Easydrinker]

Yeast like other organisms need a balance of nutrients to reproduce and perform well.

OK, I was about to post that this thread was completely off the rails, and then I spotted the above amongst the replies.

Call to order, order, please!
Thank's Mash.

Robert.

PS. If cream cakes work for your yeasties, do let us know!

[Mash]

Kale is king.
I do cheat a bit , more sugar and
Vodka Star . Nice

[gaza the instructor]

What I meant by that Mash.
If im out of neutral and desperate
I use VS normally use Allinsons, but it takes
a bit longer.

[vino-tinto]

Yesterday I started my first Kale wash. Today I ran the last of my Vodka Star washes.
The wife walked into the brew shed this after, first thing she said was "have you dropped one"
POO what a smell she said, she got the normal reply, "I can't smell anything".

[Easydrinker]

LOL!
I'm starting to wonder if some gents here use Kale to keep their ladies from the brew shed or mancave?

Robert.

[Mash]

What I meant by that Mash.
If im out of neutral and desperate
I use VS normally use Allinsons, but it takes
a bit longer.

Gotcha. Does the VS make a difference to the flavour?

[gaza the instructor]

Yes it has no taste with the Allinsons
or as little as none. Usual offish with
the VS.
Allinsons =2weeks+ on 4kg T&L
VS= 8days on 12KG
By the time its double run and filtered
both great results.
Normally do 3x25ltr washes with Allinsons
strip and that gives me a nice full
charge in the T500.
Cost has to come into it Mash.
Kale 50p-12kg T&L £6-VS £1.92 =£8.42 per 50lt wash
Kale75p- 12kg T&L £6 Allinsons £1= £7.75 for 3x25l washes

[Brewhunter]

I'm not surprised you are getting 'off' flavours putting that much sugar in the VS
I use 5kg and it's clean as you like run twice with no filtering

[gaza the instructor]

Its a 50 ltr wash, double the norm

[Brewhunter]

Ah, been planning to double batch myself.
Are you using two packets of VS?

[Anavrin]

I would use 10kg sugar in a 50lt wash, my batches are normally 40lt these days and I use 8kg sugar, I always aim for 1kg sugar to every 5lt of wash, I also found one VS will work, just takes a little longer to get going.

[Mash]

Agreed. The age old ratio of 1 bag per gallon.

Can't help but think the VS doesn't add anything positive here.

150g of bakers would cost 60p so it is most cost effective.

[gaza the instructor]

VS is just much quicker Mash
and is quite cheap ATM. £1.92
per pack.
Oh yes 1 pack 12 KG took almost
4lts hearts at 92%. Good product
no going to bother with filtering,
That will be just over 9ltrs.

[Mash]

Can you get that without the kale though ? or put another way.. is the Kale bringing any noticeable benefit to a VS wash?

[gaza the instructor]

I dont think so Mash. now I have some neutral
to play with back to Allinsons & kale