do you HAVE TO throw away the 1st 50ml- or 100ml when using the smart still
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do you HAVE TO throw away the 1st 50ml- or 100ml when using the smart still
I see your point Andy, but I have 3 Stills, lol, Inc. a fully customised Reflux Still I built from a modded design i found online, An SS Air still, and a Mini scaled down ver. of my big still.
Which I use marbles in as the Packaging material ??
Hence my question about preferred Packaging.
For those of you that are interested in I have the results of the Methanol Test from a lab.
The 1st 50ml kept from one wash:-
Methanol content, less than 0.5% (CH3OH)
Ethanol content 78% (C2H5OH)
Rest 21.5% Water (H2O) made up remainder plus a few trace amounts of fluoride (F), mineral salts, calcium carbonate (CACO3), magnesium (M) and a tiny amount of carbon (C). The guy who ran the test tried to explain other stuff, but he lost me lol, I\'ll stick to engineering. :-)
20ml was roughly the same but with 3% Methanol!!
So looks like there is indeed Methanol in the 1st few drips.
I will do the same again when I do a big wash in my big still !!.
& Let everybody know the results
Again Cheers all, (If any advice needed on electrical control circuits- accurate heating controls and PID based systems let me know- I will try to assist as best I can)
All my fermentation is kept to within 1 Deg of what I set it to (as long as ambient temperature is not higher- where ice is thrown in to the equation lol)
Also Beer/Ale/Lager/Stout conditioning the same within 1 Deg of what I tell it to stay at for however long is needed.
Scrappybill.
Marc83- No hard feelings!- clean slate !!
Just taken delivery of some new essence’s and different yeast etc.- so i will have a play later !!- will let you know results when done etc.
Sorry Jimmy- was pissed off by Marc93 Response- reacted badly!!
Looks like different yeast\'s- even water, sugars etc. all have an effect of the methanol amounts made !- so as most say- throwing away 20-50ml when making 700-800ml form 4000ml\'s is much of a big deal.
I just liked to know exactly what was what !! call it professional curiosity lol
Which I use marbles in as the Packaging material ??
Hence my question about preferred Packaging.
For those of you that are interested in I have the results of the Methanol Test from a lab.
The 1st 50ml kept from one wash:-
Methanol content, less than 0.5% (CH3OH)
Ethanol content 78% (C2H5OH)
Rest 21.5% Water (H2O) made up remainder plus a few trace amounts of fluoride (F), mineral salts, calcium carbonate (CACO3), magnesium (M) and a tiny amount of carbon (C). The guy who ran the test tried to explain other stuff, but he lost me lol, I\'ll stick to engineering. :-)
20ml was roughly the same but with 3% Methanol!!
So looks like there is indeed Methanol in the 1st few drips.
I will do the same again when I do a big wash in my big still !!.
& Let everybody know the results
Again Cheers all, (If any advice needed on electrical control circuits- accurate heating controls and PID based systems let me know- I will try to assist as best I can)
All my fermentation is kept to within 1 Deg of what I set it to (as long as ambient temperature is not higher- where ice is thrown in to the equation lol)
Also Beer/Ale/Lager/Stout conditioning the same within 1 Deg of what I tell it to stay at for however long is needed.
Scrappybill.
Marc83- No hard feelings!- clean slate !!
Just taken delivery of some new essence’s and different yeast etc.- so i will have a play later !!- will let you know results when done etc.
Sorry Jimmy- was pissed off by Marc93 Response- reacted badly!!
Looks like different yeast\'s- even water, sugars etc. all have an effect of the methanol amounts made !- so as most say- throwing away 20-50ml when making 700-800ml form 4000ml\'s is much of a big deal.
I just liked to know exactly what was what !! call it professional curiosity lol
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scrappybill - Regular

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do you HAVE TO throw away the 1st 50ml- or 100ml when using the smart still
cheers scrappy,ta jimmy.
Yes with you on leaving the slanging matches to the other forums.haha
Yes with you on leaving the slanging matches to the other forums.haha
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marc83 - Experienced Distiller

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do you HAVE TO throw away the 1st 50ml- or 100ml when using the smart still
Hi all, I\'m a newbie to distilling. Is there a ratio that can be invoked to chuck away the foreshots/heads?
I ask as I am using a 3 litre kettle to feed a condensor until I learn more and 100-200mls seems a lot to me to chuck away from each fill of the kettle.
I ask as I am using a 3 litre kettle to feed a condensor until I learn more and 100-200mls seems a lot to me to chuck away from each fill of the kettle.
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H2SO4.5 - Regular

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do you HAVE TO throw away the 1st 50ml- or 100ml when using the smart still
Another use for the foreshots is to sterilise stuff you use in fermenting -- stirrers, hydrometers, funnels, etc. Quick wipe over and leave to evaporate. Can also be used as fuel for a Trangia or similar camping stove.
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