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TPW

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:00 pm
by DorsetScott
I feel this may be a silly question, but I'll ask it anyway.

I want to try different washes as I've only been doing kale so far, and TPW looks to be highly rated.

From a UK point of view, is tomato paste what we call puree, or something else?

Re: TPW

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:33 pm
by phantom
Puree AFAIK.........

Re: TPW

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:20 am
by Easydrinker
The only silly questions are the ones that you don't ask!

Tomato paste is tomato puree.

Passata is a diluted/not concentated version.

Robert.

Re: TPW

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:39 am
by Mash
Comes in a tube, not a tin.

Re: TPW

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:17 am
by DorsetScott
Thanks all. It's what I bought, but then started doubting myself.

Reminded me of the time very early on in my brewing career when I unthinkingly bought tartare sauce rather than cream or tartar. That was not a good brew :D :D :D

Re: TPW

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:31 am
by Mash
All that said. I do think the difference id only water content - so some tomatoes (canned or fresh) or some passata should work too

Re: TPW

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:49 pm
by gaza the instructor
DorsetScott wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:17 am Thanks all. It's what I bought, but then started doubting myself.

Reminded me of the time very early on in my brewing career when I unthinkingly bought tartare sauce rather than cream or tartar. That was not a good brew :D :D :D
Yes but did you buy the Scampi to go with the Tartar sauce. :lol:

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:14 am
by Easydrinker
Mash wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:39 am Comes in a tube, not a tin.
Not quite.
It can be bought in tins.
Very small ones or catering size.

Robert.

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:07 am
by Mash
Good shout.. Never thought about catering sizes. Now that is a big wash!

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:50 am
by gaza the instructor
The little tins in Tesco were cheaper than the squeezy tubes.

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:15 am
by DorsetScott
gaza the instructor wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:49 pm
DorsetScott wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:17 am Thanks all. It's what I bought, but then started doubting myself.

Reminded me of the time very early on in my brewing career when I unthinkingly bought tartare sauce rather than cream or tartar. That was not a good brew :D :D :D
Yes but did you buy the Scampi to go with the Tartar sauce. :lol:
I actually put it in before I realised the mistake :)

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:44 pm
by phantom
gaza the instructor wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:50 am The little tins in Tesco were cheaper than the squeezy tubes.
Many forget just to compare the price to weight numbers. Cos it doesn't matter if the tins are smaller than the tubes it's they £'s per gr/kg price that's important (and that keeps Mash's "inner Yorkshireman" happy 😆😆😆😈😆😆😁👍).....

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:24 pm
by gaza the instructor
Also tins are smaller, if you open a tube you need to use it.

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:06 pm
by Mash
gaza the instructor wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:24 pm ......... if you open a tube you need to use it.
Oh no you don't. Unless of course you do the same with toothpaste :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:11 pm
by gaza the instructor
It states on the tube once opened Refrigerate and use within 3 weeks.

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:58 pm
by DorsetScott
gaza the instructor wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:11 pm It states on the tube once opened Refrigerate and use within 3 weeks.
Got to admit I've never read that, never refrigerated after opening, and never had a problem using one which has been open months.

Re: TPW

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:58 pm
by Easydrinker
It is stated somewhere that free citizens may not distll without a license!
I don't believe that one either. :lol:
Tomato paste wash, double distillation.
Are you seeing any danger from 'out of date' Tomato?
I am not. :)

Robert.

Re: TPW

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:21 am
by Mash
DorsetScott wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:58 pm
gaza the instructor wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:11 pm It states on the tube once opened Refrigerate and use within 3 weeks.
Got to admit I've never read that, never refrigerated after opening, and never had a problem using one which has been open months.
Ditto. Off to read mine now.

Re: TPW

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:44 am
by myles
The tomato is just a nutrient for a sugar wash.
I have only ever run a TPW once - a long time ago!!

Re: TPW

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:26 am
by gaza the instructor
Its probably a cover own arse securely things big companys do.

Re: TPW

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:57 am
by phantom
gaza the instructor wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:26 am Its probably a cover own arse securely things big companys do.
Use by dates are mandatory on "food" products - not sure of status of food safety advice/instructions.

We keep ours in the fridge once opened but it can be more than 3 weeks before it's used up.

I suppose that keeping it at fridge temps just slows any degradation enough and that whether it's cooked in a recipe or fermented, must be good enough - not cause me/us any issue by the sound of it........

Re: TPW

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:52 pm
by gaza the instructor
We are surrounded by these bloody signs open, close push, pull.
Came across a large chested woman with Pat written on her left
boob.
Not doing that again she got the right hump.

Re: TPW

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:17 am
by Easydrinker
Not sure if that was a deliberate diffusing post.
But I would miss gaza should he decide to take up residence on one of the other boards available. :lol:
Back in the real world, I am unsure how a bacteria tainted foodstuff may affect an active yeast ferment.
For sure, I have witnessed bacteria take over finished Yeast ferments, and spoil them.
Oh, and because I can, I keep opened Tom. paste in the fridge, it's never there long anyways.

Robert.

Re: TPW

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:34 am
by Mash
Easydrinker wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:17 am I am unsure how a bacteria tainted foodstuff may affect an active yeast ferment.
For sure, I have witnessed bacteria take over finished Yeast ferments, and spoil them.
Oh, and because I can, I keep opened Tom. paste in the fridge, it's never there long anyways.

Robert.
You answered your own question there. The yeast will clean them away.. But only when active.

Once the alcohol is made, its Acetobacter that wants to make a start.

Back on Tom paste, my tube is left on the shelf. But probably not more that 3 - 4 weeks. It is a store cupboard favourite. Never gets chucked away "off"

Re: TPW

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:14 am
by gaza the instructor
And I am sure its fine Mash, but they have printed that on there
so that if you live in the Desert 10000c and you leave it in the
Sun on the windowsill for 8 months, don't phone us when you're
balls drop off.