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Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:46 am**

Thanks guys ,I will only forge ahead if it's safe to do so ..if needs be I'll just buy an airstill I'm not going to do anything dangerous and yes Ill read and read

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:17 pm**

I don’t think you need to buy an airstill. If your water distiller is like mine it is better than an airstill. Because it has a bigger heating element than an airstill it will heat up about twice as fast, which is good. But it boils too much once it is up to temperature which is why you need a power controller just to throttle it back a bit. These airstill and water distillers have two bits to them, the boiler in the bottom half and the fan cooled condenser in the top. When you plug the power controller in you only want to throttle back the heating element and not the fan in the top. So you need to plug a separate lead into the top back to the mains so it gets full power. The bottom plugs into the controller so you can adjust the heat.
The links Gaza pointed you to explain all of this and help you get a decent product from your first attempt.
It is all very easy to do, the problem is you have to learn on your own which is why you need to do a little reading. It would be a piece of cake if someone was able to show you.
Good luck with it!

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:34 pm**

Thank you .much appreciated yes I'll read lots and follow the guide on here

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:37 am**

Marv,

You will be pleased when you see what you can get out of it.
Here is the very latest 'how to'..

Best Combo Airstill v2.2 .pdf

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:06 pm**

Windoe wrote: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:17 pm I don’t think you need to buy an airstill. If your water distiller is like mine it is better than an airstill. Because it has a bigger heating element than an airstill it will heat up about twice as fast, which is good. But it boils too much once it is up to temperature which is why you need a power controller just to throttle it back a bit. These airstill and water distillers have two bits to them, the boiler in the bottom half and the fan cooled condenser in the top. When you plug the power controller in you only want to throttle back the heating element and not the fan in the top. So you need to plug a separate lead into the top back to the mains so it gets full power. The bottom plugs into the controller so you can adjust the heat.
The links Gaza pointed you to explain all of this and help you get a decent product from your first attempt.
It is all very easy to do, the problem is you have to learn on your own which is why you need to do a little reading. It would be a piece of cake if someone was able to show you.
Good luck with it!

Nicely put mate!

Robert.

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:52 pm**

Mash wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:37 am Marv,

You will be pleased when you see what you can get out of it.
Here is the very latest 'how to'..

Best Combo Airstill v2.2 .pdf

Thanks for the new version pdf ...might need to ask more questions on here next few weeks you guys are great .

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:56 pm**

I just bought an Airstill. Works for me.
The yanks say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:43 pm**

I couldn't resist for ten quid..

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:30 pm**

You get what you pay for mate!!

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:40 pm**

I believe lots of people have used water distillers to make stills? Would it not be the same as an air still with the voltage regulator?

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:04 pm**

Marv75 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:40 pm I believe lots of people have used water distillers to make stills? Would it not be the same as an air still with the voltage regulator?

Yes it would. Ignore gaza he's teasing.
A stunning buy for £10.

I am sure you have found my pdf on the subject.

The Americans also elected an idiot as president!!

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:09 pm**

Mash wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:04 pm
Marv75 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:40 pm I believe lots of people have used water distillers to make stills? Would it not be the same as an air still with the voltage regulator?
Yes it would. Ignore gaza he's teasing.
A stunning buy for £10.

I am sure you have found my pdf on the subject.

The Americans also elected an idiot as president!!

I'm following the pdf word for word lol ...cheers

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:18 pm**

Any questions shout up.

You will make yourself grin when you drink the finished goods.

Read "freezer stripping" too

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:36 pm**

Mash wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:18 pm Any questions shout up.

You will make yourself grin when you drink the finished goods.

Read "freezer stripping" too

I hope so ..I'll have a look for it cheers

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:55 pm**

Can I buy one Mash, thats an idiot president?
Surly you don't mean Trump, Trumperty Trump,
Trump,Trump, Trump, or was that Dumbo.
"I seen a House Fly and heard a Diamond Ring!!!"
And I have heard a Trump and smelt one, but
never seen one!!!

Posted: **Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:59 pm**

Mash wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:04 pm
Marv75 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:40 pm I believe lots of people have used water distillers to make stills? Would it not be the same as an air still with the voltage regulator?
Yes it would. Ignore gaza he's teasing.
A stunning buy for £10.

I am sure you have found my pdf on the subject.

The Americans also elected an idiot as president!!

Which one?

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:35 am**

Looking forward to some sense coming out of the USA in a coupla weeks.

Robert.

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:51 am**

I would not hold your breeth ED we are talking the good 'ol
U.S.of A !!

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:23 am**

Agree there. I still think that there is time for some more fireworks from Nellie the elephant .. Sorry Trump

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:26 am**

I always put my kale wash in the airing cupboard, it loves me for doing it too. Temp is 25 to 28c ferments dry in 10 days. I then put the fermenters somewhere cold for 3 or 4 days to clear the wash, any shite/cloudiness drops out of suspension so you get a lovely clear wash to syphon into your boiler. Good luck Marv75, soon it will all be second nature to you

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:04 pm**

@BuffaloBob I am chasing the elusive fermentation 'stall' that requires the addition of some bicarb?

Has this ever happened to you?

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:23 pm**

I stalled a De Tomaso Pantera in the middle of Tolworth roundabout.
That was embarrassing.

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:13 pm**

Should have bunged a bit of Bicarb. in the tank, that would have sorted you, who needs Nitro?

Robert.

Posted: **Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:17 pm**

gaza the instructor wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:43 am Tomato Paste Wash.
25ltr recipe;-
180g red split lentils (could be green etc)
70g Tomato Paste (I use the one in the squeeze tube)
Put in a jug and pour on a litre boiling water and stir.
Dissolve 5kg Sugar in warm water in your fermenter.
Add your tom & Lentil mixture.
Stir well to get air in.
Top up to 25ltr at 30c.
Add 50g bread yeast, lid on wait for 20mins, then stir in
yeast gently.
Seal and Airlock.
A vigorous ferment will start within a day and finish in
about 2 weeks.
Test and let it clear a bit. You know the rest.
I have three finished ready to still now.
Top tip temp, temp, temp Keep at 28-30c or near if poss.
This will aid your ferment and get you there quicker.

Do the lentils add anything? I generally use a tube of puree per 25l and no lentils and works pretty well.

Posted: **Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:50 am**

I guess that it is a 'if it works for you, don't F*** with it' scenario.
I use less puree and add lentils.
That works for me.
More ways than one, always.

Robert.

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